tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post6174915737217086853..comments2023-12-27T04:21:54.668+00:00Comments on Ian Driver's Thanet: THANET COUNCIL's SOILED UNDERWEARIan Driverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07956304869323562491noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-85499209951705586882013-07-25T16:09:11.578+01:002013-07-25T16:09:11.578+01:00If so see Local Authorities (Standing Orders) (ENG...If so see Local Authorities (Standing Orders) (ENGLAND) Regulations 2001 - Regulation 7 - Investigation of alleged misconduct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-82780473090009385292013-07-25T12:04:30.027+01:002013-07-25T12:04:30.027+01:00Following requests for information made in good fa...Following requests for information made in good faith by an elected member of the Council, is it not Gross Misconduct for any Officer of the Council let alone its Principal Solicitor to knowingly and continually make false statements or knowingly provide false or misleading information to that elected member? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-221506889078010432013-07-25T11:48:18.827+01:002013-07-25T11:48:18.827+01:0001:41 As you have no understanding of the issues i...01:41 As you have no understanding of the issues in this case you are bound to see it as a "waste of time and money".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-74591472327980632842013-07-25T10:47:42.440+01:002013-07-25T10:47:42.440+01:00Well done Ian: keep going. Mere silly legal wriggl...Well done Ian: keep going. Mere silly legal wriggling form Harvey now. Ask for copies of the minutes and emails on the decision. And the contract/document under FOI. <br /><br />And because you are a councillor - do none of the other councillors receive this sort of financial information routinely?<br /><br />I dread to think where the Manston costs and fines are hidden.<br /><br />How appalling to have the civil servants hiding this material from you. <br /><br />Sack them and reinvoice the wasted costs as deductions of salary and pension.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-56262835261820629912013-07-25T08:31:38.122+01:002013-07-25T08:31:38.122+01:00Not more pub logic.Not more pub logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-44660807890060664212013-07-25T06:01:28.725+01:002013-07-25T06:01:28.725+01:00Think you need to check your facts. SFP does not h...Think you need to check your facts. SFP does not have any funders so who could I write to? Several people wrote to the hotel groups one of the groups said it had never been approached by the developers. Not the first time they have made things up to look good. The advertising standards authority took the developers to task for misleading advertising. Thanks Allan Ian Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07956304869323562491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-11710871198229902932013-07-25T01:41:28.508+01:002013-07-25T01:41:28.508+01:00What a pointless waste of time and money. The mone...What a pointless waste of time and money. The money lost would have been lost either way. It's a bit like worrying whether a burning house will burn to the ground before the fire brigade damage the carpets with water, then 2nd guessing the fireman about how they used the water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-49389273026906985582013-07-25T00:01:36.289+01:002013-07-25T00:01:36.289+01:00Driver wrote to one of the Funder's on Royal S...Driver wrote to one of the Funder's on Royal Sands and told them they should not fund the development, and then also wrote to one of the Hotel groups, and told them not to come to Ramsgate...<br /><br />Both letter were sent as if Driver was acting with TDC Authority..<br /><br />And we wonder why Ramsgate seafront is in the state it is.....<br /><br />Driver is a driving everyone awayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-35898607647965589212013-07-24T23:04:21.538+01:002013-07-24T23:04:21.538+01:00The Council is wrong to deny visual inspection and...The Council is wrong to deny visual inspection and copying of the documents for the following reason. The Audit Commission Act 1998 provides for the auditor to audit the accounts to be satisfied that they have been prepared in accordance with the Accounts and Audit Regulations 2003, that they comply with all other statutory provisions applicable to the accounts, that proper practices have been observed in their compilation, and most relevant to the Transeuropa £3.4million debt that the body whose accounts are being audited has made proper arrangements for securing economy, efficiency and effectiveness in its use of resources. This is the “value for money” aspect of the audit.<br /><br />The right to inspect and copy under section 15(1) of the Audit Act 1998 is conferred on persons interested, which is a wider group than just local government electors, and was enacted to enable those with a real and close interest in a council's activity to scrutinize its accounts in the audit process, for example to consider whether sums paid under a contract are properly due; whether payments made by the Council are lawful; and whether in incurring any liability for expenditure the Council under audit has made proper arrangements for securing value for money. <br />This latter “proper arrangements for securing value for money” is relevant to the Transeuropa Debt and the “Debt Deferral Arrangement” and any other documents that lead to the £3million charge in the accounts. Ipso facto all the documents related to it should be disclosed, and they are breaking the law if they do not.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-52232191302816570032013-07-24T21:54:36.097+01:002013-07-24T21:54:36.097+01:0018:17 is right, if it was non-binding it may as we...18:17 is right, if it was non-binding it may as well have not existed, and assuming that it existed and was binding there was obviously no security obtained for the debt, but the document should be shown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-15315414693237159052013-07-24T18:17:26.660+01:002013-07-24T18:17:26.660+01:00If TDC believe that the "debt deferral arrang...If TDC believe that the "debt deferral arrangement" was not a contract then it raises the question of why a non binding agreement was made rather than a contract for such huge sums of money? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-79565177143748111752013-07-24T17:17:28.652+01:002013-07-24T17:17:28.652+01:00It is highly unlikely if tested in Court that the ...It is highly unlikely if tested in Court that the Council would succeed in a futile claim that the "debt deferral arrangement" was not a contract or deed or voucher as it caused the Council to act or to not act in this case to the detriment of £3million.<br />To say it is irrelevant to the 2012/2013 accounts is clearly wrong because that document if it actually exists, and to be sure it cannot be worth the paper it is written on, is, if the Council is to be believed, the reason there is a £3million cost to provide for the bad debt in the 2012/13 accounts. So what more reason should you need to be allowed to see it? After all you may want to challenge the auditor as to why it is a £3m charge now and was not in the two prior years. <br />When the above quoted statute was drafted stating a whole list of document types can be inspected, it is clear what the intention was, and they would not list "debt deferral arrangements" along with an infinite number of other unlikely documents. <br />The reason you are not being allowed to see it, if it exists, is because it will cause major embarrassment to those involved, especially those telling you why you cannot see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-80323757613764516812013-07-24T16:28:16.515+01:002013-07-24T16:28:16.515+01:00very little indeed compared to the £3.3 million de...very little indeed compared to the £3.3 million debt owed to the Council by TEF, which was secretly cobbled together by a tiny handful of senior council officers and political bosses of the Tory and Labour parties and which will have to be paid for by Thanet Council tax-payers. The actual figure is £4,000pa in allowances. I hardly think trying to expose the truth of a secret £3.3 million gone wrong when virtually all 56 Thanet councillors are slavishly following their party whips and closing ranks to cover up the truth is grandstanding. But hey ho it takes all sorts Ian Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07956304869323562491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-84635941689224484392013-07-24T16:08:52.349+01:002013-07-24T16:08:52.349+01:00Well done on the result so far. For your informat...Well done on the result so far. For your information I have asked (Once again) Clive Hart to yield jurisdiction to Full Council concerning a past Standards procedure. On the basis they cannot sit in judgment of themselves. With a view to remedy and to the question of TDC making a crime complaint of conspiracy to pervert justice. Unfortunately in 1967 the Statute Law displaced Misprision of Felony at Common Law or I would have made crime complaints at Common Law against every TDC individual who had knowledge and failed to report to police. <br /><br />Power to your elbow though. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-52188328412452390012013-07-24T15:16:56.182+01:002013-07-24T15:16:56.182+01:00Please keep up the questions on behalf of all of T...Please keep up the questions on behalf of all of Thanet and also acting as opposition in default of Bayford and the useless Tory group. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-8967711854409940632013-07-24T14:28:26.874+01:002013-07-24T14:28:26.874+01:00I have to liken the incident to a tug of war. Lots...I have to liken the incident to a tug of war. Lots of time training, loads of energy used up, considerable time stood in the same place going nowhere fast. Then when there is a winning team, how far has it got them - a body length perhaps. Time to put all the effort at one end of the rope, pull together and pull The Isle of Thanet towards being a decent place like it used to be. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-4346943887209424622013-07-24T14:10:48.709+01:002013-07-24T14:10:48.709+01:00And how much do you think you've cost by conti...And how much do you think you've cost by continually grandstanding for your own purposes ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-24002373999729178602013-07-24T13:41:09.793+01:002013-07-24T13:41:09.793+01:00Well done Ian!
Please keep going for the people of...Well done Ian!<br />Please keep going for the people of Ramsgate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7196642437552790719.post-55758524050036754992013-07-24T13:22:09.997+01:002013-07-24T13:22:09.997+01:00There are some very good launderers locally.There are some very good launderers locally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com