I’ve finally
woken up to the very scary fact that I owe Thanet Council £23,000 and that this
debt includes a cripplingly unfair 8% statutory interest rate. This large debt was
imposed on me by Thanet Council to recover its legal costs for a High Court gagging
injunction they took out against me in December 2014. The injunction was
secured, with the approval of the then ruling Labour Cabinet at Thanet Council,
to prevent me from publishing, in the public interest, confidential documents
about the controversial Ramsgate Pleaurama development. The injunction is
unique. Its the first time in legal history that a gagging injunction has been
secured against a councillor by the council he/she was democratically elected
to oversee. This unprecedented action raises some very important questions
about the rights of councillors to free expression and their ability to public interest whistle-blow. But I’m
digressing. The purpose of this post is
not to discuss the injunction; I’ll be
writing about that in more detail soon,
but to tell you a story about a very surprising thing which happened to me, which
wouldn’t have happened had I not been trying to deal with the injunction and the astronomic court costs.
Having no
savings or income apart from state
benefits and a small rental from our granny annexe, Jo
and I recently began searching for a cheaper home for ourselves and our 3 daughters. The idea
was to free up some cash so we could pay off Thanet Council and be free
of the debt and massive annual interest payments once and for all.
Last week we discovered
what we thought was the answer. A large family home with a separate
self–contained basement flat at 27 La
Belle Alliance Square Ramsgate. The pictures and the description on the Ward
and Co website were very exciting and Jo and I thought this property might be a
solution to our problems. The asking price was £385,000. The property had been on the market since April so we might possibly get a deal at £360- £375k which would free up enough
cash to pay off Thanet Council. It was large enough for the 5 strong Driver clan and had room
for visitors to stay and the girls' mates to come and play. It also looked quite nice and homely too.
No planning application or building control application for the flat |
No separate council tax banding for the flat |
picture from estate agent website of the flat |
another picture of the flat |
The Greens. Prominent Thanet Labour politicians. Were they prominently dishonest or prominently forgetful? What do you think? |
I also find it hard to understand why the Greens appear to have failed to register their flat for separate council tax banding and why they have therefore probably failed to pay the council tax which technically is due to Thanet Council.
As members of Thanet Council's ruling Labour Cabinet until 2015 they were responsible for ending the 6 month council tax exemption policy on empty houses and flats in the district. This means that council tax on the Green's flat was due immediately after the conversion works had been completed, which was April 2016 if not sooner. They were also responsible for developing polices to maximise council tax collection rates in the Thanet district. Its difficult for me to believe that having gained so much council tax experience and knowledge whilst they were Thanet councillors and Cabinet members, they simply forgot, or didn't realise, that they owned a flat for which they should have been paying council tax!
I will be contacting the Leader of Thanet Council to request that this matter is investigated. If the investigation reveals any wrong doing I would expect the Greens to pay in full any tax which is deemed to have been due and to secure any relevant permissions and conduct any required works to regularise their flat
Thanet Labour Party should also do the right thing and suspend from membership the Greens until investigations are carried out. If I was a member of Thanet Labour Party I would insist that the Greens were expelled from Labour membership if it is found to be the case that they unlawfully converted a flat and then sought to avoid the payment of council tax due on that flat. Surely such actions, if they are found to be true, could be seen as bringing the Labour Party into disrepute.
Latest news David Green has challenged my account of matters related to his home. I am busy with Live animal exports tonight but will reply to him tomorrow via my blogiste. It will be an interesting read.
The basement of 27 La Belle Alliance is current an office associated with the main building it does not have separate utilities and so is not a separate dwelling. The estate agents blurb should say potential for conversion to a separate self contained flat. We are in the process of changing agents and re-advertising. I will make sure the new blurb is clear about that. Please remove these ridiculous and malicious accusations.
ReplyDeleteRidiculous and malicious ! You Mr Green are a disgrace and a fraud. Quite simply a nasty excuse for a human being ...
DeleteDavid I assume that you were asked to approve and sign off your estate agents brochure and the description of your property before this information was published. David your estate agent also published a statement entitled What the Owner Says which quotes you as saying "We have maintained the house while we have been here and have most recently converted the lower ground into a self contained flat". Are you saying that Ward and Co, a reputable firm of estate agents are lying? Are you now going to sue Ward and Co for misrepresentation. My adice to you is stop digging
Deletethe drawings show a bedroom...
DeleteDrawing doesn't show any connecting stairs to the rest of the house. Presumably this is another mistake by the estate agent.
DeleteWhen I was shown the properties it was the house plus an basement flat.
DeleteRather than decorating his basement flat why doesn't he speak up on pleasurama or thor mercury?
DeleteWhy did you have an injunction but not the Gazette too?
ReplyDeleteHow many more of them have been bending the rules?
ReplyDeleteIt is just awefull that Mr Driver needs to sell his home to pay costs that were incurred by Tdc to gag him in the first place! Then to discover this when looking at another property. This is a clear display of the hypocrisy within the politics and politicians of TDC. There are clearly one set of rules for one person and a different set for another depending on your power and connections.
ReplyDeleteAnd even more awful that someone relying on benefits is having to downsize to a house costing less than £400,000.
DeleteSpiteful and vindictive local Labour Party run then by Irish (and probably still is) who will do absolutely anything to silence anyone who gets near to exposing their corruption and incompetence.
ReplyDeleteAnd we thought the conservatives were bad!!!!!!!
Absolutely disgusting that Mr Driver was even under a gagging order. It just goes to show you just how corrupt TDC is and has been for years
ReplyDeleteFormer councillor & Mayor Green clearly thinks he is above the law by not applying for planning permission & not paying council. Now he's squirming & trying to blame the agents! Disgraceful...
ReplyDeleteMr Green is wrong assuming not having separate utilities doesn't make a separate dwelling. It is obvious that he just doesn't want to pay any council tax. He has kept this secret from the council tax assessors that he has a self-contained flat that has a bathroom and kitchen. This could have been a flat, without proper planning permission, since he started living there. Mr and Mrs Green could have been avoiding council tax on this flat for years. I hope that his friends at the council don't sweep this under the carpet.
ReplyDeleteFrom the agents website (before it disappears):
ReplyDeleteWhat the owner says
We were attracted to this house for a number of reasons, firstly the amount of space that the house offers meaning our growing family had plenty of their own space, and secondly the location. Being so close to the town means that within a short walk we can be in the town centre, or on the seafront overlooking the Royal Harbour enjoying a coffee from one of the many cafes and bars available. We have maintained the house while we have been here and have most recently converted the lower ground floor into a self contained flat, but changes in circumstances mean this has never been lived in! We hope the next owners enjoy the house as much as we have done!
Sold a house last year - had to sign off on the estate agent's blurb, I checked all details were accurate and truthful.
ReplyDeleteCan't believe that I would have missed something as major as a office being described as a granny annex!
A bit of info on annexes:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.extensionbuild.co.uk/when-annexe-not-annexe.html
Looks like a class T exemption is ruled out as the annex hasn't been used. ..
The Valuations Office, a branch of HMRC and the department responsible for setting Council Tax on properties, deems an annexe to be liable for separate banding if it could be classed as a self-contained unit - i.e. it has its own kitchen area, bathroom and sleeping/living space - even if it shares other services and entrances with the main house
ReplyDeleteWhat a clown. His claim that it's an 'office' is laughable. Clearly a shabby and dishonourable attempt to avoid registering it for council tax. Additionally, he will have been well aware that planning permission should have been granted and all appropriate safety certificates should have been obtained whatever the conversion's intended use? I'm sure that in his former incarnation he'd have taken a very dim view of any one trying to pull off such a stunt.
ReplyDeleteAnd we wonder why Pleasurama, Dreamland, Ramsgate Port, Manston etc etc are such a mess?
ReplyDeleteNot a very bright thing to do Mr Green. Any purchaser's solicitor would have picked up the fact that there was no planning permission. I suggest you put it back to the way it was. Knock £50k off the asking price and then sell it to Mr Driver.
ReplyDeleteWhy is the injunction 8% interest when the Bank of England interest rate is 0.5%? Courts making up the rules?
ReplyDeleteWhy extra tax for one property and a minor conversion? Why aren't the councilors reducing tax?
ReplyDeleteI do hope our council will be looking into this matter as it is not something to be swept under the carpet. In fact this couple should be setting an example therefore should be made an example of through the enforcement appropriate.
ReplyDeleteThanet fraudsters who have sat so long in our council is the reason we have such a bad name for our council.
In our judeo-christian system of law, customs and beliefs, the man or woman who leads TDC is honour bound to accept whatever *a man* can afford to pay on a regular basis, free of interest, without jeopardising the welfare of his family, without selling the family home, until his situation improves.
ReplyDeleteIan, you might consider making an offer they can't refuse.
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